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KeeperNC

8th March 2014, 11:36

Seeing two BRGs posted together yesterday (thanks, Twisties!) right beneath the latest entry in MrMustang's long-lived Laguna Blue thread gave me an idea - how about a similar discussion thread about for-sale BRGs?

Too much of a copycat concept? Oh well, I'm doing it anyway! :D

Here's where this thread will differ a bit (aside from the color). Since the U.S. '91 BRGs were all numbered, I'm going to try to find out that SE number in each case before posting. (Out of 4000 officially, though M.net's production spreadsheet says there were actually 3997 - why is that, anyway?) I'm also going to attempt to get the VIN.

That'll add an interesting element to the chase, and may be useful for someone down the road - if you're considering buying a BRG, and if it's been for sale in the recent past and landed here, then this thread might give you a little insight into its history and the discussion it generated. Or former BRG owners may find out what happened to the car they sold "way back when."

Contacting the sellers for the SE# and VIN will take a little more time than simply sharing a for-sale ad here, but hey, worth a shot. It will also help reduce posts of BRGs that have already sold, which was the case for three of the BRGs I contacted yesterday.

I'm hunting only the 1991 U.S. special edition, not Canadian BRGs or 2001 BRGs. Others might decide to post those, but that's not the goal of this thread.

To be clear, this is NOT in any way a replacement of the official BRG registry (http://www.mazdachat.net/dynamics/browsecategory.php?c=3) - if the car is not for sale, then DON'T post it here. And if you're trying to sell your own BRG, please put it in the M.net classifieds first, and then link it here too if you like.

So that's the concept, anyway. For anyone who'd like to play along, try to post the VIN and/or SE# when you can - please put it in the title field of your entry. Also copy and paste the text of the ad since CL listings can be short-lived. We'll see if this gains any steam or not. There are some definite dogs out there (I've already come across quite a few), but hopefully this will also help some of you into the sweet joy of BRG ownership. :thumbs:

P.S. I've been meaning to become a supporting member of M.net for a long while - finally got around to it this morning, as you can tell by the fact that I now have an avatar pic. That's my son on our joyride home from St. Louis one year ago last month, in the exact spot (Sewanee) where the weather finally allowed us to take the top down for the first time. Seemed like the starting point of this thread would be a good opportunity to officially join, as well as encourage others to support M.net.

KeeperNC

8th March 2014, 11:43

So my first entry in this running thread was selected not because of the quality of the car - I doubt anyone will be flying out to San Fran for this one! - but because of the oddity.

First, a bit of detail on how to find out the SE#. If the seller doesn't know it, but is willing to provide the VIN, then you can call Mazda USA at 800-222-5500 and they'll look it up for you. They're very helpful, though it sometimes takes a little while, as they're working off of an old PDF spreadsheet and the VINs aren't in order.

When I contacted the seller of this particular BRG (text only per his ad's request), he sent back the SE# of 519, but not the VIN. So I asked the customer service rep at Mazda USA if she could do the reverse - give me the VIN based on the SE#. She said yes ... and that's where it gets weird.

SE# 519 is assigned to two different VINs! :eek:

(By the way, the speed of her response suggests to me that their BRG reference PDF is listed in the order of the SE# - she saw immediately that there were two entries for #519. That explains why the VINs are out of order on the PDF; as has been stated elsewhere, the SE#s are seemingly applied at random - they have no connection to the production order.)

Unfortunately, a Carfax report does not show whether the car is actually a BRG. But both are legitimate VINs:

JM1NA3513M0232099 shows up as in San Fran, so that's clearly the CL advertiser's car.
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/cto/4341027060.html
1991 MAZDA MIATA
UP FOR SALE 1991 MAZDA MIATA SPECIAL EDITION WITH HARDTOP CONVERTIBLE CANVAS IN GOOD SHAPE TOO NO LEAKS,5SPEED MANUAL 166K MILES RUNS VERY GOOD $3500.NO LEAKS,GOOD TIRES,GOOD BRAKES,AM/FM CD

According to Carfax, JM1NA351XM1222485 (the second #519) shows up in Bel Air, Maryland. It's a single-owner car with 71,336 miles on it, as of a DMV entry last August. So it's certainly consistent with how a BRG fanatic might keep his or her car.

How weird is that?!? Pretty interesting way to kick off this thread! If any readers out there happen to be the owner of the Maryland #519, well, you own an oddity!

I've got more entries that I'll be adding later today - waiting for responses from a few sellers on their SE# or VIN. As mentioned, I'm going to try to get those whenever I can, instead of just throwing ads up as soon as I see them. I hope that anyone else who'd like to play along will do the same.

Enjoy the thread!

P.S. Most of my entries will be shorter than these two. ;)

Shibby

8th March 2014, 11:56

No affiliation... ran across this last night (http://www.selectdirect2u.com/detail.aspx?id=3894705&PrefID=0&.aspx)

Very rare low mileag 1 owner adult owned 1991 Mazda Miata Limited Edition in British Racing Green. Number 3828/4000. This car has been garage kept since new and comes with the matching hard top as well. Timing belt and waterpump were done around 60000miles new tires just installed PA state insptected and is in excellent shape inside outside and mechanically. This color combination with this mileage truly sets this car apart and is an exceptional deal. Please call for more information.

Price: $4,995
Mileage:82,825

http://imagescdn.dealercarsearch.com/Media/4969/3894705/635243126057423739.jpg

KeeperNC

8th March 2014, 13:11

No affiliation... ran across this last night (http://www.selectdirect2u.com/detail.aspx?id=3894705&PrefID=0&.aspx)

Shibby, thanks for putting the VIN/SE# in the title. :thumbs:

KeeperNC

8th March 2014, 13:25

So this owner doesn't know the SE# (he recalled it was 3-something), but it's a decent price with decent mileage, and with spring-like weather having already arrived in the Carolinas today, I'm not sure if this one will last 'til Monday when Mazda customer service is open again.

So as a service to any of you who are legitimately on the BRG hunt, I'm posting this now with just the VIN - will add the SE# back in later if the mods allow it, or I'll just note the # in a follow-up post on Monday.

http://greenville.craigslist.org/cto/4365153806.html
1991 BRG miata - $5000 (Seneca)
I have a 91 BRG special edition miata for sell with only 104,000 miles on it !!! great looking little car and lots of fun to drive !!!! It is one of only 4,000 made of the BRG edition ... Gets 30 + mile to the gallon .. Replaced soft top 2 years ago . Always garaged only 3 owners .. It is a must see .. Same car sells for as much as 10,000

Ad should say "same car sells for as much as $10,000 if the mileage were under 25k." :rolleyes: Still, a seemingly fair price if it inspects as good as it looks. I'll be adding some older for-sale BRGs later, but this one is newly listed for the first time this a.m., so it seemed worth posting quickly.

autox25

8th March 2014, 13:30

Looks like a repaint in the front end as decal appears to be missing on nose. But since Keeper found 2 cars sharing the same SE number maybe thats how a 4000 production run became only 3997 cars. Thats as many SE numbers were assigned? I wonder how many more out there share the same SE number?

autox25

8th March 2014, 13:35

I wanted to post a link but don't have a clue on how to do that.

KeeperNC

8th March 2014, 13:42

I wanted to post a link but don't have a clue on how to do that.

If you're trying to post a link to an ad, just cut and paste.

If you're trying to embed a link into text, like this (http://forum.miata.net/vb/showpost.php?p=6816103&postcount=7), you click the "go advanced" button (rather than "post quick reply"), highlight the text that you want to turn into a link, then click the little formatting icon that looks like a globe with a single chain-link underneath, and paste the link into the box that comes up.

jprocknow

8th March 2014, 14:23

http://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/4362990984.html

Limited info on this one, contacted him for the SE#.

KeeperNC

8th March 2014, 14:35

http://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/4362990984.html

Limited info on this one, contacted him for the SE#.

Yep, that was one of the ones I tried contacting yesterday - no response yet. In case the ad goes down, here's the text:

1991 Special edition BRG Miata - $4800
120K miles, 5 speed.
Super sharp and original right down to the tan leather seats.
New tan top, new tires, timing belt and water pump, new brakes and calipers, stock daisy wheels, new radiator plus much more >>> in necessary 22 year upgrades.
You pay for what you get, BRG cars are rare, especially ones which have been taken care of !!
John
217-734-2471

autox25

8th March 2014, 17:24

Well this is the best I could do. Pic didn't copy. This car was discussed last year. Went off the market late fall but has re-appeared. Nice looking car but modified with wheels, gold stripes, etc.

1991 Mazda Miata BRGSE - $7000 (Buchanan Mi)

1991 Mazda Miata BRGSE odometer: 94000
Very clean 1991 Miata. British racing green with gold cobra stripes. Recent paint. Front and rear spoilers. New brakes, rotors and master cyl. Stainless performance exhaust. New Tokiko shocks, Konig Goldfeather wheels and Toyo tires. New clutch. PW PL keyless entry and alarm. Never seen winter. OBO.

KeeperNC

8th March 2014, 18:19

Well this is the best I could do. Pic didn't copy. This car was discussed last year. Went off the market late fall but has re-appeared. Nice looking car but modified with wheels, gold stripes, etc.

1991 Mazda Miata BRGSE - $7000 (Buchanan Mi)

Ah, you were asking how to copy a picture. That I don't know - would be nice to be able to cut and paste those too, but I don't think that function is available on this forum. When I did that for the LB-R last week, I had to save each picture to my desktop, then upload them as attachments to the thread.

Thanks for adding this BRG:
http://southbend.craigslist.org/cto/4344113424.html

The seller was kind enough to reply with the # and VIN earlier today, but I hadn't gotten around to posting that listing yet. So I've added them to the title line of this response.

You're right, I remember when he had it listed a long while back. Seems like it has come down in price - his email to me was "Thanks, its a great car. The only reason I am selling is I don't drive it and it needs to be driven. I am open to offers!! Tom blackjack17@sbcglobal.net"

mrmustang

8th March 2014, 18:50

For the record, the car in Doylestown, PA is a full dip repaint.

Bill S.

KeeperNC

8th March 2014, 19:01

For the record, the car in Doylestown, PA is a full dip repaint.

Bill S.

And local, on-the-spot detail like that can sure save fellow M.netters some time, as well as provide critical info when comparing prices of one BRG listing to another - nice! :thumbs:

In case the ad disappears, for clarity, the repainted Miata is the one in thread post #3 - #3828, JM1NA3515M0232492

jprocknow

8th March 2014, 19:50

Didn't get the SE#, but have the VIN. Also some pictures.

http://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/4362990984.html

Limited info on this one, contacted him for the SE#.

KeeperNC

8th March 2014, 22:49

Didn't get the SE#, but have the VIN. Also some pictures.

Cool - pictures really help, JP, and thanks for adding the VIN!

I love that triple window. Thought hard about doing that on mine, but M.net research and the opinions of several more-experienced owners talked me out of that.

Looks like a red NA in the foreground of one of those shots - wonder if he's an enthusiast or flipper (or both)?

KeeperNC

8th March 2014, 23:12

Here's another that just hit CL this week. I have to give this one props for:
- Fast response - out of all those I contacted, he was quickest to reply
- Enthusiast-owned, as you can tell by the black NA in the background - looked like possibly a 93LE, and seller confirmed as such (no, it's not for sale - I asked)
- Creativity - swapping an NB interior into an NA! :eek:

Here's the very detailed listing:
http://augusta.craigslist.org/cto/4360441795.html

1991 Miata BRG w/Hardtop - $5400 (Aiken, SC)
odometer: 149900 manual transmission
British Racing Green Miata with all factory documentation, books and plaque. This is a two owner car as I'm the second owner. I bought it through a small private dealership in town from the long time first owner for whom the car was a toy. It resided in South Carolina until he was transferred to Indiana or Ohio where it lived a summer life hibernating in the winters. It then moved back to South Carolina.
The car is rust free with no rust in the rockers or anywhere else I can tell. It has a Racing Beat air filter/intake, a canvas top from a 2004 Miata with glass window and uncracked rain rail in addition to the hard top. Has a Racing Beat exhaust and sport pipe from the cat back.
As far as suspension goes, it has almost new (meaning less than 1000 miles on it) Flyin' Miata longitudinal and butterfly braces (which tighten up the handling considerably) and the Flyin' Miata Stage 1 suspension kit with Tokico Illumina shocks. All of the Flyin' Miata were installed in the summer of 2013. Then plans changed with a college adventure out west where a lowered car is not ideal.
The car has an original paintjob and has a few dings from life and living. Original daisy wheels with newer tires. Not more than 3000 miles on the tires. It will come with a tonneau top and a window protector. I can negotiate on the hardtop if it is not desired.
What you see on the inside is a tan, leather interior. Seats and carpet from a 95M for comfort. I happen to like the 95M Miata carpet better and it was clean and the seats were replaced since they are comfortable, rare, have separate headrests and the old driver seat was torn. The headrests have speakers in them. All new speakers, JL I believe and it has an aftermarket Eclipse brand double din stereo. The dash is from a 2002 Miata as is the center console. This is purely aesthetic and works fine. The steering wheel is a Nardi from a 2002 Miata and is leather. The shift knob is from an S5 Mazda RX7 but I can install an original Miata knob. Its a matter of personal preference. Everything fits without issue or squeaks. I have a set of 2002 Miata doorpanels to match the interior and that can be discussed.
The car had a timing belt and associated maintenance done within the last 5000 miles. Synthetic oil and NGK plugs and wires. Includes upgraded Hella H4 headlights.
This car is extremely reliable and is ready to travel. Its a great car and the only reason we are selling is to buy a 4x4 for my son who is at college in the mountain states. I don't need help selling, nor will I accept overseas checks or other shady deals. Come see the car and buy it. That's it. Cash works well, cashiers checks must clear or be approved by bank.
_____

Now, would I do that to a BRG? Heck no, I like 'em stock! But someone who's gone to all that trouble clearly loves his Miata (as opposed to aftermarket drift schlock just slapped onto a car that deserves better).

Here's the kicker: after I told the seller where I intended to post his car, he said Prof Tom personally did the "TB/WP, pulleys, all the stuff - and all Rosenthal parts." Double :thumbs:

Overall, I'd say it actually looks pretty good - 95M seats are very sharp too. My personal preference will always be to keep BRGs stock, but I'll give this seller major kudos for the effort. Bonus points for 12 photos in his ad too.

The moderators do like discussion after all, and the swaps in this BRG sure are worth discussing! :wave:

Dward

8th March 2014, 23:37

Keeper,
I don't understand, are you actively looking to purchase another BRG ?
Or, you just reaching out to all of the owners to help the community ?

KeeperNC

8th March 2014, 23:59

Keeper,
I don't understand, are you actively looking to purchase another BRG ?
Or, you just reaching out to all of the owners to help the community ?

Dward, I'll admit straight out, I'm simply addicted to the hunt. :bang:

I actually like hunting for all NAs, particularly the semi-unique ones (LEs, Lagunas, M's & R's). But I have a hankerin' for BRGs in particular, naturally.

Some M.netters hunt to acquire, some hunt to flip. I can't afford either (beyond my current BRG, which I'll never sell!), so I'm doing solely to help others find their own BRG, if that's what they're after.

And to feed my habit. :rolleyes: :dunno: :cool:

Joe_in_Houston

9th March 2014, 00:15

And yet another but this one in Tampa with 110k is definitely in needs load of loads of TLC but only $2500!

http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/4365531047.html

KeeperNC

9th March 2014, 14:50

Just in case Joe in Houston's Tampa ad submission goes down, here's the content. Don't think I'll chase down the SE# and VIN on this one - to me, any SE value is long gone.

1991 Miata SE - $2500 (brandon)

1991 Mazda MX-5 Miata SE edition with only 110,000 miles on the car. Special edition model with British Racing Green exterior and camel leather interior, cruise, power windows, Nardi shift knob and limited slip rearend. Original 1.6 liter engine with 5spd manual transmission that runs great and provides 30 MPG. The car runs and drives great and needs nothing mechanically. I has new tires and spark plugs. I installed synthetic lube in the engine, transmission, and the indepent rear end. The body however is showing it's age and could use a paint job and new top in the near future.

Call for more details if interested. Asking $2500 for this fun to drive dependable sports car.

KeeperNC

9th March 2014, 14:54

So, to amp up the conversation quotient of this thread - this is a discussion forum after all! :wave: - here are a few to consider:

- Have you ever attempted - or even seen in person - an NB interior into NA car? If so, how did you like it?

- If you're in the market for a BRG, how does the Greenville one strike you for price vs. mileage? (With the usual caveats about maintenance/condition, and figuring he wants a price in the $4k's, I'd say it's on target. But that's just me.)

- Is there any SE value left in that Tampa beater?

- If you've ever put a tri-window top in a Miata, how long did it last for you before the corner windows cracked from being right in the fold spot?

- For any of the numbered Miatas - i.e., not just the BRG, not just NAs - has anyone even heard of a duplicate SE# before? Anyone here happen to know a BRG owner in the general Bel Air MD area who might be this one's owner?

There's some food for thought for you. For anyone interested in playing along, cherry-pick the question that catches your eye, or answer all of them, whatever strikes your fancy. :thumbs:

91BRG-1STOWNR

9th March 2014, 21:25

There are 60 odd cars listed in the MazdaChat online BRG registry with both VIN and Sequence number showing. The general pattern is such that the higher the VIN, the higher the sequence number. About 10% were out of sequence (6 numbers), but these were within 400 VIN numbers of where they should be in a perfect higher VIN higher sequence number pattern. My guess is that sequence numbers were assigned upon sale of the vehicle.

In the registry , the VIN ending in 222365 is sequence number 477 and the VIN ending in 222528 is sequence number 548.So the VIN you listed ending in 222485 and having a sequence number of 519 fits nicely in the pattern. Registry VIN 232077 is sequence number 3500 and registry VIN 232230 is sequence number 3621. Your 232099 VIN would fit in between, but closer to 3500, maybe at 3519?

I don't know where the 3997 vs 4000 came from either. In the first hard copy registry published in 1995, which has over 400 entries, the first owner listed has car number 1 and the last owner listed has car number 3998. The registry also indicated that about 131 owners did not want their information listed, and this included car number 4000. Unfortunately, this registry did not include the VIN's.

vertrx7

9th March 2014, 22:33

Jared, the electrical genius on this board from North Carolina has an NB interior. His is brilliant and its where we got the idea.

It really is a nice driving experience. I took the BRG out tonight, yes, the one listed for sale. Fun car, handles wonderfully but you don't really notice the dash change. The console is comfortable and the dash fits right in. The most difficult part was the electrical and there are plenty of postings here that help you do the conversion. Needed to remember to get all the appropriate plugs. We've just assimilated all the postings into one vehicle. The HVAC controls are a wonderful upgrade though I've seen them in an NA dash.

I wouldn't do this in my LE dash, but it is fun in the BRG. We used the SEM appropriate color to do the tan as the NB tan is different.

chacend

10th March 2014, 02:32

Vertrx7,

Looks great, nice job and I like that you left the doors as is, more room.

mrmustang

10th March 2014, 08:29

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/cto/4367955987.html

mrmustang

10th March 2014, 08:31

http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/4367396782.html

KeeperNC

10th March 2014, 14:47

http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/4367396782.html

Thanks for the additions, Bill. This Huntington Beach one looks to be an unexpectedly good price for the mileage, at least given the typical California inflation. (As evidenced by the Valley one - $6k for a 134k salvage title? Gook luck with that! :rolleyes:)

Huntington Beach's owner is named Nick Farber. His phone reports as disconnected, but he replied to me via CL email saying he's having phone issues and will try to get me the VIN later today.

mrmustang

10th March 2014, 14:57

Surprised you did not post this one in your own backyard :D

http://hickory.craigslist.org/cto/4368228444.html

KeeperNC

10th March 2014, 15:00

First Owner, that is great perspective - I've heard others say the SE# doesn't track with production, so that's really interesting to read. The idea of it tracking with sale date seems like a logical theory, and would explain the disconnect.

I had completely forgotten about the printed registry, but now that you mention it, I vaguely recall submitting my info and getting a copy of that with my first BRG way back when. Does anyone have a hard copy that they'd care to scan in and share? Even without the VINs, that would be a very cool addition to this thread.

Vertrx7,

Looks great, nice job and I like that you left the doors as is, more room.

Vertrx7, thanks for chiming in - always good to get the actual seller's perspective, and great to know that there was a proven blueprint that you followed. Chacend, very interesting point - I wouldn't have thought of that. Yes, retaining the extra NA legroom is a nice bonus.

KeeperNC

10th March 2014, 15:12

Surprised you did not post this one in your own backyard :D

http://hickory.craigslist.org/cto/4368228444.html

Sigh. :ohno: Yes, I saw that one and was avoiding it, like the proverbial elephant in the room. But since you've opened that can of worms, I'll go ahead and upchuck these two while we're at it:

#3544, JM1NA3517M0232137
http://fayetteville.craigslist.org/cto/4340230292.html

# unknown, VIN why bother
http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/cto/4362882945.html

Part of me just cringes when I see these. But hey, it's a free country - to each his own, right?

If nothing else, between wrecks, salvage titles, stratospheric mileage, and modded-beyond-repair specimens like these three, the value of my car is growing every day. :D

Edit: just realized the Statesville/Hickory and Fayetteville cars are one and the same - oddly, phone numbers are different, but definitely the same car. Looks like he ditched the duckbill and returned the original trunk lid. Too bad it's too late to do the same for the rest of the car - it was a one-owner, bone-stock BRG when he bought it.

Ed's 91-BRG

10th March 2014, 16:56

I'll make sure to post mine when it officially on the market. Cheers, Ed:thumbs:

KeeperNC

10th March 2014, 17:04

I'll make sure to post mine when it officially on the market. Cheers, Ed:thumbs:

After you put it in the M.net classifieds, right? Don't get me in trouble with the mods about advertising. :cool:

Yours already has a great thread - feel free to also link it here when you're ready, but given the extensive conversation that has already taken place, yours deserves a thread all its own. :thumbs:

P.S. You're right about the insane reflectivity - when I first saw your new photos, I thought the underside of the car was filthy, until I realized it was mirroring the darn road!!!

Ed's 91-BRG

10th March 2014, 18:16

After you put it in the M.net classifieds, right? Don't get me in trouble with the mods about advertising. :cool:

Yours already has a great thread - feel free to also link it here when you're ready, but given the extensive conversation that has already taken place, yours deserves a thread all its own. :thumbs:

P.S. You're right about the insane reflectivity - when I first saw your new photos, I thought the underside of the car was filthy, until I realized it was mirroring the darn road!!!

Yes - classifieds first. Although I should point out that I've already had seven unsolicited offers for a car not yet ready for the market. Got to love pristine NAs. :D

KeeperNC

10th March 2014, 18:24

Yes - classifieds first. Although I should point out that I've already had seven unsolicited offers for a car not yet ready for the market. Got to love pristine NAs. :D

Nice!!! The strong interest doesn't surprise me at all, though not sure I would've guessed 7 offers.

Maybe the mods can add an eBay-like bidding option in the M.net classifieds. :p

mrmustang

10th March 2014, 19:49

If you like the last one I posted, well....

http://newyork.craigslist.org/wch/cto/4369107618.html

At least this one has the # tag still on it.

KeeperNC

10th March 2014, 20:05

If you like the last one I posted, well....

http://newyork.craigslist.org/wch/cto/4369107618.html

At least this one has the # tag still on it.

I like this one a country (or even NYCity) mile better than the last one you posted. With the HT, stock wheels in storage, and mileage, this SE is worth saving.

Edit: Unless the fenders have been flared (I can't tell), in which case all bets are off.

Edit#2: The CL seller Blaise's phone number (his only contact info) is missing a digit - classic. For anyone who wants to pursue #3771, it's 914-438-5052. Anyway, when trying to track him down for the VIN, I googled Blaise Miata BRG, and this is the first thing that came up (http://www.stanceworks.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48743). :eek:

Now, I dislike mods as much as the next purist, especially the lowered ride & boat anchors. But man, even I have to absolutely applaud that interior. Great Googly Moogly! :jump:

I have no idea why that particular thread came up - that link is NOT Blaise's car, nor does anyone by the name of Blaise even comment on that thread. But the wheels are actually pretty close, and it's funny that both the CL ad and the Google search result ended up with stanced '91 BRGs with HTs.

At least, that's my excuse for sharing some flat-out stunning photos. :thumbs:

KeeperNC

10th March 2014, 21:52

Editing time expired on my prior post, but for the sake of completeness, I have now added the VIN from the seller.

I like this one a country (or even NYCity) mile better than the last one you posted. With the HT, stock wheels in storage, and mileage, this SE is worth saving.

Edit: Unless the fenders have been flared (I can't tell), in which case all bets are off.

ScottT80

10th March 2014, 23:24

People sure know how to ruin some nice cars...

Ed's 91-BRG

11th March 2014, 05:02

Nice!!! The strong interest doesn't surprise me at all, though not sure I would've guessed 7 offers.

Not all offers came from members of this forum - but there have been a few of those as well. :thumbs:

KeeperNC

11th March 2014, 15:17

Thanks to the helpful folks at Mazda USA, I'm doing some cleanup/clarification today. For starters, I incorrectly wrote down one digit on the Greenville BRG (post #5) - what I had as a Z was a 2, and the SE# is 3330, both noted in the title of this post.

KeeperNC

11th March 2014, 15:29

Next on the cleanup aisle is the Huntington Beach BRG. Its SE# and VIN are now in this post's title, and below is the CL ad copy, since we forgot to insert that back in posts 27/28.

Have any California M.netters seen this car in person, and if so, what's your verdict?

Edit: search is my friend :p - at least one M.netter has seen this car in person, and here's the thread (http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=527116). So it's been for sale since the beginning of 2014 and hasn't sold. At that price, in California, something's up. Could be as simple as the Carfax item that andtf found - that's enough to scare a few, even if a PPI clears it mechanically/structurally. Or perhaps there's something more significant.
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1991 Mazda Miata 67k Original Miles LE British Racing Green EXCELLENT - $6500

As the title says, up for grabs is something I really don't want to let go, but unfortunately have to. I bought this car thinking I was going to keep this forever, but the plans have changed. Mint Caramel Leather interior and all the other goodies associated with the LE model, with British Racing Green Exterior in PHENOMENAL condition, with the exception of a few door dings on one fender, smaller than a nickel. Got a quote at 100 dollars to take out the pair. I am in no hurry to sell, so please no lowballers. Feel free to go buy 120k+ miata with several after market mods for much cheaper. This is perfect for the Miata enthusiast to enjoy the stock lively hood of the car, or to have a fresh canvas to build thats never once been touched

reply to with questions or to schedule an appointment to see the car
-Nick

http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/4367396782.html

Huntington Beach's owner is named Nick Farber. His phone reports as disconnected, but he replied to me via CL email saying he's having phone issues and will try to get me the VIN later today.

KeeperNC

11th March 2014, 16:03

Final update for now is on the St. Louis BRG, from posts 9, 10, and 15 with the pics. It's actually in Nebo, Illinois, a good clip north of St. Louis.

I missed his call, but the seller, John, left me a voicemail earlier today. Said he "plays quite a bit with Miatas," and this is actually his third BRG, none of which came with the SE plaque when he acquired them. (John also mentioned that he's friends with one of the "super moderators" on M.net - must be a special class of mods with alien powers. :p)

Thanks to Mazda, I was able to text him back with the info that his BRG is #446.

http://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/4362990984.html

Limited info on this one, contacted him for the SE#.

Yep, that was one of the ones I tried contacting yesterday - no response yet. In case the ad goes down, here's the text:

Didn't get the SE#, but have the VIN. Also some pictures.

jprocknow

11th March 2014, 18:26

Final update for now is on the St. Louis BRG, from posts 9, 10, and 15 with the pics. It's actually in Nebo, Illinois, a good clip north of St. Louis.

Thanks to Mazda, I was able to text him back with the info that his BRG is #446.

John playing quite a bit with Miatas is an understatement. He's got a serious collection of them up there, nearly all are available for sale. Basically, if you want an NA, he probably has one for you, if you like his prices.

KeeperNC

12th March 2014, 09:46

I like this one a country (or even NYCity) mile better than the last one you posted. With the HT, stock wheels in storage, and mileage, this SE is worth saving.

Edit: Unless the fenders have been flared (I can't tell), in which case all bets are off.

For posterity, below is the ad text related to #3771, forgot to paste that in earlier. And in case the car ever shows up later with the rear quarter repaired, the attached photo shows what it looks like now.

Fender is clearly an issue. But "needs to sell ASAP" suggests you could get this car for $4500 easily, maybe even $4k or less.

Sell off the XXR rims and the HT and you've got a 77k mile BRG for roughly $2500 to $3000! :eek: **If** there's nothing else wrong with the car, that seems like an absolute steal. That leaves a buyer plenty of $$ room to find a replacement fender and still feel like you got a bargain.
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1991 Mazda Miata - $5000
Im posting this up for a friend, its a 91 Miata with 77,000miles on it, its a 5 speed. Car is stock except for the xxr rims and it does come with stock wheels. Its a hardtop, its a fun little car and runs great. He needs it sold as soon as possible. Also open to some trades if the car is clean and stick.

The Bad: small dent on the rear passenger quarter panel.

Text this number only +1 (914) 438-5052

KeeperNC

12th March 2014, 22:56

Always good to hear that he's known in the local Miata community. I think there's a big difference between a buff-and-shine flipper and someone who loves working on Miatas, doing all the necessary mechanical work on a car that just needs a little love to maximize its value. It sounds like John is the latter.

In any case, I boldfaced the last part of your statement because we seem to have hit a sweet spot for these BRGs - $5,000. Setting aside the significantly modified cars, let's recap in the order they've been posted here:

- Doylestown PA #3828, $4995, 82k (but repaint)
- Greenville SC #3330, $5000, 104k (no issues that we're aware of)
- St. Louis/Nebo IL #446, $4800, 120k (slightly higher miles, but the major maintenance work is done, by a Miata specialist)
- New York #3771, $5000, 77k (fender damage, but flipping HT and aftermarket wheels could offset damage)
- And the Minneapolis car that I'm about to post next, also at $5,000

So if you're comfortable with roughly 100k miles (+/- 20k) - which certainly isn't a ton, given the proven dependability of Miatas - there are plenty of BRG prospects out there for merely $5k - and that's the ask. Show up with $4k to $4.5k cash and it's yours.

I find that fairly amazing - and good for BRG lovers on a budget! :thumbs:

KeeperNC

12th March 2014, 23:08

As noted in the post above, this is another right in that $5000 sweet spot. The wheels are unfortunate (wonder if he has the daisies in storage), and the camera angles don't show the rockers or seat bolsters. But that paint and top sure look sharp!

http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/ram/cto/4333956570.html

1991 Miata Special Edition - $5000
odometer: 87106 manual transmission
Special edition 1.6L British racing green with tan leather interior and black top. Nardi wood shift knob and hand brake handle, stainless sill plates, AC, CD/AM/FM, leather interior, leather wrapped steering wheel, polished strut tower brace, Canon rear brace, Ram air tube. this is car # 2696 out of 4000, limited edition. Never has seen snow.
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(As an aside, I've always wondered whether a chrome gas cap would look good on a BRG. This listing provides that answer, a definitive no. At least to me.)

KeeperNC

13th March 2014, 08:13

Just in case those five current examples of that price/mileage combo didn't convince you that's a pretty common sweet spot for BRGs, here's a sixth:

http://miami.craigslist.org/brw/ctd/4362720745.html

1991 MAZDA MIATA CONVERTIBLE 5 SPD MANUAL 90K MILES! CLEAN CARFAX! - $4995 (hollywood fl)

1991 mazda mx-5 miata odometer: 90250 manual transmission
wow! clean carfax! look at this extra clean miata with only 90k miles! beautiful green with a tan interior! 5 speed manual and drives perfect! you must check this one out! this vehicle is priced to sell fast! call for a test drive today! local buyers feel free to come by and check us out at 5907 funston st. hollywood fl 33023 or at our web at cyberautosalesmiami.net. we also do financing, bad credit doesn't matter we will get you approved! all prices are real cash prices no tricks!!!!!
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I took the liberty of taking the all-caps out of the type - you can thank me later. :rolleyes: I'd rather deal with a private seller all day long than a dealer, but for a buyer in the south Florida market, far away from all our prior listings, this seems worth checking out. If nothing else, gotta give the dealer props for including a solid inventory of 23 photos. (Holy tire gloss, Batman!!!)

Some light mods on this one: tan top (which a lot of BRG fans prefer, though I'm not among them), speedo faces, stick-on wood trim, door tweeters, not sure what that chrome thing is between the luggage rack and gas cap. But nothing that changes the integrity of the car as a mostly stock, sub-100k BRG.

Clear signs of sticky dash in shot 11 - common to most BRGs by now, and certainly worse on those down in hot Florida. If you're not familiar with the infamous "sticky dash" of the BRG, 93LE, and NA6 B&Ts, you'll want to read up on that here on M.net.

P.S. 40 is the lowest SE# that we've documented in this thread, but I came across this old listing for one far lower a while back - #5 (http://www.dfwmiata.com/threads/19795-For-Sale-Low-Number-1991-BRG-Miata-Limited-Edition). And go figure, asking price was $5000 for a 91k mile BRG - anyone see a theme? ;) That was a one-owner with HT, which made it a steal - but 2011 was the depths of the recession.

As 91BRG-1STOWNR noted earlier, the owner of #1 is listed in the out-of-print hardcopy of the original BRG registry - anyone still have a copy of that to scan in and share?

killerrobut

13th March 2014, 08:16

This is #1571 but also a 1 of 1 Kaki Roark edition.

Limited edition Kaki Roark Mazda Miata MX-5, number 1571 of 4000, with hard top AND soft top convertible!

http://austin.craigslist.org/ctd/4369855417.html

Joe_in_Houston

13th March 2014, 08:26

You are very thorough my friend, excellent job.

I have a nonBRG question regarding post # 47- is it best to store a Miata up on jacks to not have flat spots on tires?
I see people do that to RVs, wondered if the same thing applied to stored cars?
Is there a rule of thumb?

jprocknow

13th March 2014, 09:16

True, but only worth it if it's going to be not driven/not moved for a long time, like the entire winter. Ideally, that's what I would do, but I heard a story of a car that burned out in a fire because it was up on jacks and the firefighters couldn't get it off before the fire consumed it. That's my fear.

KeeperNC

13th March 2014, 12:06

This is #1571 but also a 1 of 1 Kaki Roark edition.
http://austin.craigslist.org/ctd/4369855417.html

Now that's a clueless dealership. Wow. :ohno:

For completeness, I've added the VIN above and the ad copy below. Note that despite the ad's claim of 120k, it's actually at 130k.

1991 Mazda Miata MX-5 - $6500
120000 manual transmission
Limited edition Kaki Roark Mazda Miata MX-5, number 1571 of 4000, with hard top AND soft top convertible! 5-speed manual transmission, tan leather seats, premium stereo, and great, great gas mileage! This car is in excellent condition with a clean Carfax report! Call Justin for more information, www.killeenautobrokers.com
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On the plus side, it's a single-owner vehicle, the Carfax is clean (free on their website), and with a distinctive name like that, it wouldn't be hard to Google "Kaki Roark" and reach out to the original owner if you wanted to speak with her. It has the hardtop - a major plus - and if you care, the chrome valve cover that I believe was a dealer-installed factory option.

On the downside, at least the front end has been repainted (no Mazda sticker), obvious signs of bolster wear (very common, but that seems like more than some in this thread), aftermarket stereo (a photo on the dealer website shows the original is stored in the trunk), and a sunbleached interior - you can be sure the aftermarket woodgrain cupholder didn't begin its life in that shade!

Also easily the dirtiest engine bay we've seen so far. My guess is the town of Killeen, a bit north of Austin, is a hot, dusty place - still doesn't speak well of how the car was treated, and a lazy dealer. :bang:

Price listed on the dealer website is $5900. For a low-mile specimen, some will pay up to a $1500 premium for a BRG that came from the factory with the HT. For this one? Not quite so much, which is why #1571 has been for sale since May 2013.

KeeperNC

13th March 2014, 12:28

You are very thorough my friend, excellent job.

"Thorough" is the polite way to put it. :rolleyes: I appreciate the kind feedback!

For those who go see any of these BRGs in person, please do chime in with your on-site observations. And if you happen to buy one listed here, we'd really love to hear about that! :toast:

Rod Knock

13th March 2014, 12:43

"Thorough" is the polite way to put it. :rolleyes

I'll be the 1st one to ask then. Do you also do windows? :p

KeeperNC

13th March 2014, 12:57

I'll be the 1st one to ask then. Do you also do windows? :p

No, but since you asked about windows, I'll go OT for a moment with a hilariously embarrassing anecdote about how my attention to detail is, um ... selective.

Driving to work this morning in my OTM, I was eating a banana and noticed a bruise. So I broke off that 2-inch segment of banana, hit the auto-down button on my window, and, with my eyes still on the road, hurled the banana chunk toward the woods to my right.

THUNK!!!

I had rolled down the right rear window. :O :bang: :rofl:

Rod Knock

13th March 2014, 13:04

No, but since you asked about windows, I'll go OT for a moment with a hilariously embarrassing anecdote about how my attention to detail is, um ... selective.

THUNK!!!

I had rolled down the right rear window. :O :bang: :rofl:

Uh, here in the SF Bay Area, you would be cited and fined for violating both the littering and composting ordinances. :ohno: :)

KeeperNC

13th March 2014, 13:06

Uh, here in the SF Bay Area, you would be cited and fined for violating both the littering and composting ordinances. :ohno: :)

Actually, not even Commie California could've given me that citation today, since I only succeeded in littering the interior of my own car. ;)

Rod Knock

13th March 2014, 13:39

Actually, not even Commie California could've given me that citation today, since I only succeeded in littering the interior of my own car. ;)

We're like the "Minority Report" out here. We'll convict on intent, because we know you'll do it again. :thumbs:

Of course, that's once you've passed the CA Resident IQ Test, which mainly focuses on the task of properly choosing and operating various buttons. :rofl:

mrmustang

13th March 2014, 13:57

Back on topic (yeah, I was bored today)

If you like the last one I posted, well....

http://newyork.craigslist.org/wch/cto/4369107618.html

At least this one has the # tag still on it.

VIN: JM1NA3518M0232437

Total loss after accident in July 2013 :rolleyes:

KeeperNC

13th March 2014, 14:29

Back on topic (yeah, I was bored today)

VIN: JM1NA3518M0232437

Total loss after accident in July 2013 :rolleyes:

Well, that clarifies matters on SE#3771, thanks!

Sounds like he needs fast cash, so if you're in the area and you want just a BRG hardtop, make him an offer on the HT alone. Might be able to score a bargain, especially since we're coming out of HT season.

mrmustang

13th March 2014, 17:06

http://bham.craigslist.org/cto/4373218413.html

mrmustang

13th March 2014, 17:26

This was a 1991 BRG :D

http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/cto/4373333395.html

autox25

13th March 2014, 21:32

So the dented rear quarter on 3771 made it a total loss? Or was it really wrecked and rebuilt (meaning its got a salvaged title) and has since then gotten more damage to the rear 1/4?

autox25

13th March 2014, 21:34

Bill, funny post on the portland car. The guy is worried about a little dirt? He's got more to worry about than that.

mrmustang

14th March 2014, 08:17

Don't be fooled by this one, the car was originally white

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/4374107836.html

Joe_in_Houston

14th March 2014, 09:43

Well, that clarifies matters on SE#3771, thanks!

I'm confused too. Either the car has a salvage title per CarFAx, or the BRG was wrecked & totaled after this picture in the ad was posted?

Bob_MX5

14th March 2014, 10:11

Now that's a clueless dealership. Wow. :ohno:

For completeness, I've added the VIN above and the ad copy below. Note that despite the ad's claim of 120k, it's actually at 130k.

Last September is when this one caught my eye and it was listed at $3995. The pics at the time indicated the outside was as dirty/crundgy/abused as the inside. Even then, I thought it was overpriced given condition and mileage.

It was relisted at $7K after it was washed...about 2-3 months ago as I recall and the price has been slowly dropping over the past few months.

Sad little BRG.

cheers.

KeeperNC

14th March 2014, 10:23

It was relisted at $7K after it was washed...about 2-3 months ago as I recall and the price has been slowly dropping over the past few months.

Sad little BRG.

cheers.

$4k out the door with HT would be a solid deal, especially if the TB/WP have been done any time recently. A better steward could bring this car back to life and have a nice BRG good for another 100k miles.

Bob_MX5

14th March 2014, 10:33

Ummmm, maybe. But then it couldn't sell at that price in warm/cozy central texas during the summer....so maybe not.:dunno:

I did not look actually put eyes on this one but either this one must have "real" issues; or the market for neglected 100K mileage plus BRGs is not where the asking prices would suggest.

Just my 2 cents.

KeeperNC

14th March 2014, 10:55

Ummmm, maybe. But then it couldn't sell at that price in warm/cozy central texas during the summer....so maybe not.:dunno:

I did not look actually put eyes on this one but either this one must have "real" issues; or the market for neglected 100K mileage plus BRGs is not where the asking prices would suggest.

Just my 2 cents.

Certainly a valid 2 cents (or even 3! :wave:) - my guess is you're correct on the "real issues."

If not, and assuming that $4k OTD price could still be attained (maybe not at this point), I'd think a flipper selling in a major market could do well with this one, given the clean Carfax:
- sell off the HT ($1000, maybe more since there are no obvious chips)
- have a leather shop replace just the panels of the side bolsters, not the whole seat (I recall a BRG seller in California found a shop to do this fairly cheaply about a year ago); if the seats are too far gone for that, put on quality covers
- give the exterior and engine bay a major detail, strip and restain the shift knob and cup holder (or just put a black ashtray in), and put a factory Mazda sticker back on the nose

A fully detailed, 1-owner, 130k mile mile BRG with clean Carfax (again, assuming nothing else shows on the PPI) could bring in $4,500 I bet. Add the $1k for the HT and you've done well.

All theory, of course - I'm not taking on that risk myself. :rolleyes:

P.S. All of us here would know to avoid it, of course, as would anyone smart enough to Google the VIN and land on this thread. But as Prof Tom likes to remind us from time to time, M.net is a very small slice of the roadster-buying universe.

Bob_MX5

14th March 2014, 12:25

....All theory, of course - I'm not taking on that risk myself...

This was my line of thinking last September regarding this BRG. It just needed too much even at $4K and seemed like a project that had very little, if any, upside.

cheers

KeeperNC

14th March 2014, 16:47

This was a 1991 BRG :D

http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/cto/4373333395.html

Quit cluttering up this thread with cars that want to make me want to repeatedly flag the ad for no good reason other than the advertiser's a tool. :cry: :mad: :sad:

KeeperNC

14th March 2014, 17:06

http://bham.craigslist.org/cto/4373218413.html

Since I know MrM's big thumbs make it hard for him to cut-n-paste on that tiny iPhone of his, I'll take care of adding the details below for him. :D (Not that I see this ad disappearing fast, at that price/mileage combo.)

http://bham.craigslist.org/cto/4373218413.html

1991 SE Mazda Miata - $5500 (IRONDALE)
odometer: 119000 manual transmission title : clean
I'm selling one of 4000 miatas made with this combination. British Racing Green and tan Leather interior. Also have car cover and wind dam. Cars water pump was just replaced at 100k car currently has 119k on it. Please only serious offers. Might trade for manual hatchback or wagon. Text for more pictures. 2o59three69six7four
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Texted this seller to get the VIN and then called Mazda for the SE#. (And as a quick aside, the Mazda rep told me today that the PDF they go through trying down to hunt down these non-sequential SE VINs is 104 pages long!!! :eek: That would explain the long hold each time - they certainly need a longer, less repetitive on-hold sequence, it's getting excruciatingly tiresome to listen to. :rolleyes:)

Anyway, she said the TB/WP were done at 110k, it's a great car, and oh by the way, she's in class from 5:00 to 10:00 central, so please contact her outside those hours. And also her boyfriend has a 1990 track Miata that he's trying to sell too.

Yes ma'am, duly noted. Hey, gotta give her props for busting her tail in school - 5 hours every night is a hard way to earn a degree! :cool:

KeeperNC

14th March 2014, 17:50

Driving home tonight with the top down (which itself is Exhibit A in why I live in the Carolinas ;)), a black NA with HT pulled up next to me. Car was lowered just a tad, with a white racing circle on the side. Guy in maybe his 30s got my attention and said, "Excuse me, would you have any interest in selling your car?"

I smiled and said, "Heck, I flew all the way to St. Louis to get this a year ago when it was at just 37,000 miles."

His eyes lit up. "On a '91? Damn!" Then the light changed.

Miatas are awesome in general. But BRGs stop even other Miata owners. :thumbs:

Rod Knock

14th March 2014, 17:56

I was expecting him to say "Excuse me, do you have any Grey Poupon?" :D

KeeperNC

14th March 2014, 18:06

I was expecting him to say "Excuse me, do you have any Grey Poupon?" :D

Naw, that's a question I'd get driving a Laguna :D

(Kidding, of course - I would raced up to buy that LB-R if I had the spare $$ for a second Miata!)

mrmustang

14th March 2014, 18:42

Naw, that's a question I'd get driving a Laguna :D

(Kidding, of course - I would raced up to buy that LB-R if I had the spare $$ for a second Miata!)

Didn't that 94 LB "R" sell already ?

None of the 95 LB "R's" are currently being offered........Yet :D

mrmustang

15th March 2014, 15:40

http://burlington.craigslist.org/cto/4376396548.html

Joe_in_Houston

16th March 2014, 00:07

BRG in Houston:

http://www.excitemotorcars.com/mobile/mdetails.aspx?VID=216015940

142k miles

VIN: JM1NA3514M1224734

From website:

Beautiful BRG Limited Edition "91 Miata that Runs and drives great. This car will have a rebuilt title due to hail damage.
The hood ,trunk deck lid, and top have been replaced and the entire car repainted. A black full tonneau is also available.
It is located in NW Houston,TX 77066

$3700

mrmustang

16th March 2014, 07:14

Hate to post this one

http://miami.craigslist.org/brw/cto/4376520248.html

Sad, but true.

Seller is delusional as to the price though.

mx52go

16th March 2014, 11:23

^^ "small front fender bender" :eek::confused: !!!!! I'll say!!!!

Also, seats replaced at some point, what does the stitching say on them?

Is that a rag or a bunch of leaves under the brake booster, stuck in the corner of the engine bay??

Too bad too, not only was it a BRG but it also had the rare ABS option which was none too common in 1991.

Joe_in_Houston

16th March 2014, 14:59

"bring your battery and you can test drive it !!!"

Aren't those just words of encouragement?

Test drive a car with a Certificate of Destruction title that can not be legally registered and driven on the road???

Amusing ad if nothing else.

Ed's 91-BRG

16th March 2014, 15:00

Posted in the forum's for sale section just now.

Located in the community known as Big Canoe, GA. Will also be posted in our community "for sale" board in the postal facility - sold my 4Runner there for big bucks so you never know. No eBay or Craig's list for now.

KeeperNC

16th March 2014, 18:11

I was wondering when this thread would finally have one from the M.net classifieds rather than CL - very glad to see that!!!

And in fact, we get not one, but two:
Ed's BRG: http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=534207
CV Joint's BRG: http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=534227

I hope both of them sell faster than any of the CL cars - my guess is that they've been treated very well by knowledgeable sellers. Hope they get every penny asked, and that they stay in the M.net family. If you buy one of these two, be sure to let us know! :thumbs:

mrmustang

17th March 2014, 20:06

Has this one been posted yet?

http://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/4371986668.html

KeeperNC

17th March 2014, 20:21

Has this one been posted yet?

http://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/4371986668.html

Your prior Statesville/Hickory/Fayetteville "find"? Oh several times a day, in multiple CL cities across the Carolinas, with separate for-sale and barter listings.

Nothing screams "special edition" like daily "will barter for a similarly molested Japanese import" CL ad spam. :rolleyes:

mrmustang

18th March 2014, 06:53

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/4380108371.html

Joe_in_Houston

18th March 2014, 08:30

Here's a BRG in Shreveport, LA CL:

http://shreveport.craigslist.org/cto/4379676285.html

Bill52

18th March 2014, 10:32

This one been up yet, no affiliation.

Hard top and under a 100k miles for 3500$, looks clean (but its just a picture)

http://hudsonvalley.craigslist.org/cto/4379439924.html

Joe_in_Houston

18th March 2014, 11:10

This one been up yet, no affiliation.

Hard top and under a 100k miles for 3500$, looks clean (but its just a picture)

http://hudsonvalley.craigslist.org/cto/4379439924.html

This one is not gone yet?

Too good to be true.....

mrmustang

18th March 2014, 11:19

This one is not gone yet?

Too good to be true.....

Marked as an automatic, yet in the pictures and the description it states manual transmission. The fact it is currently listed as an automatic might make people miss it in certain search engine type searches.

Bill S.

CTt3MX5

18th March 2014, 12:13

Bill S.

This! I've come across plenty of great deals on a sweet car that I found in a search engine as an auto to open the pics and find it's a 5/6sp. How hard is it to list the car properly? And it's not just private sellers but dealers as well.

I saw auto and got excited (once again) to only be deflated when seeing the manual shifter. Have to wonder how the nose looks without that bra on though?

mrmustang

18th March 2014, 16:52

Too good to be true (I've already sent my name, email and phone number along with a "I'll take it" within an hour of being posted), no response as of yet. :ohno:

http://southjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4380924260.html

My sister lives in the next town over, all I am waiting for is an address to send her husband over to get it. :jump:

Bill S.

KeeperNC

18th March 2014, 17:03

Good luck nabbing it for the SWMBO!! I'm sure you've already thought of that unfortunate, formerly pristine 95M that got nabbed by the shore hurricane - hope that's not the case here too. Keep us posted! :thumbs:

mrmustang

18th March 2014, 17:06

Did not even think about that, if he calls me back, I'll be sure to bring my bore scope to check all of the nooks and crannies that you typically would not.

Again, seems to good to be true, but I took a stab at it just like the 94 "R" that Frank got in CT.

Bill S.

Joe_in_Houston

18th March 2014, 17:39

CTt3MX5, mrmustang is nabbing your automatic BRG!

mrmustang

18th March 2014, 18:12

CTt3MX5, mrmustang is nabbing your automatic BRG!

Still no response from the seller :dunno:

CTt3MX5

18th March 2014, 20:59

CTt3MX5, mrmustang is nabbing your automatic BRG!

Still no response from the seller :dunno:

Guessing this is the one mrmustang linked in post #93? I just clicked on it and the posting has been deleted! So did you get it Bill? If not, what was the info posted? Figures the one night I don't get on the laptop after dinner and an automatic BRG gets posted. hahahahahaha

Joe_in_Houston

18th March 2014, 21:02

You don't want to know....trust me, you don't want to know....

CTt3MX5

18th March 2014, 21:05

You don't want to know....trust me, you don't want to know....

Aw $%&!*)@~+@$#%^(*<@!#$% C'mon Joe....you couldn't just let it go. :rofl:

But on a side note, I've got a PPI scheduled for Thursday morning on an NB. ;) Not saying anything else as I don't want to jinx it but I may be on a one way flight South by the end of the week. :jump:

mrmustang

18th March 2014, 22:23

Not me :(

Bill S.

mx52go

18th March 2014, 22:40

New listing down on the Island, in Texas:

http://houston.craigslist.org/cto/4381225868.html

Needs a little work. Ok, maybe more than a little :rolleyes: .

It all looks complete, just lots of apparent deferred maintenance.

Joe_in_Houston

18th March 2014, 23:09

Yes Bill, post #93- did you get it?

Joe_in_Houston

18th March 2014, 23:13

Galveston BRG has 150k+ miles. no Mazda sticker on front bumper, 2 different shades of green paint on left side, peeling paint on hood, has a young driver, driver seat eh, rese license plate trim cracked, uuuumh yes, needs a whole lotta love.

geffrocks

20th March 2014, 00:21

70K miles on this NB

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/4382972625.html

KeeperNC

20th March 2014, 09:49

Bummer that MrsMustang won't be getting that AT BRG because MrM is just too slow at finding these things. :p Not too often that he gets beat to the punch! For the rest of us not looking for a needle-in-a-haystack AT, it's back to our regularly scheduled programming with this intriguing find:

http://treasure.craigslist.org/cto/4346239171.html

Mazda Miata - $7500 (Okeechobee, FL)
odometer: 29000 manual transmission

Mazda Miata 29,000 miles like new inside and out. 4 new tires. Needs nothing. Interior like new. Call 765-348-8270
_____

This may be the most vague low-mile BRG ad in history. In fact, it didn't come up in my earlier searches (and I'm sure most others are missing it too) because there's no mention of green/BRG/SE/LE anywhere in the ad. So as a customer service, I've done the homework for you. :wave:

I talked to the owner, Jess. He's an older Indiana snowbird who visits Florida a few months a year and has worked on cars his whole life, father was a Chrysler dealer. Also owns a red Miata. The BRG stays in Florida and he says it's always garaged.

He bought it with a salvage title (which is what he does for a living/hobby - buy salvage cars and fix them up), now it's a rebuilt title. Said he replaced the right rear quarter and bumper cover after the prior owner wrecked it. Interesting story - said he actually tried to buy it 7 times from State Farm, but they couldn't agree on price for months. He also thinks the prior owner raced it, because it had an aggressive alignment set up for racing.

Jess says it's all original other than those two parts, and one window that he replaced because it was "discolored" - new tires about 2 years and 1,000 miles ago, that's it. Nothing else but oil changes - said he's never even had it detailed. I asked what # it was, and he didn't have a clue (I got it from Mazda) - I'm not sure he realizes it's a special edition. I also asked if the TB/WP were done, and he thought I was nuts given the mileage.

As a quick aside here on the time-vs-mileage debate, I'll throw in my personal experience. My BRG had the timing belt done at 35k miles by the original owner, but the Sweet Old Lady didn't ask the Mazda dealership to do the water pump while they were in there. So naturally, the 23-year-old water pump crapped out on me a couple weeks ago - at the same time the pilot bearing in my clutch went out, despite the fact that she surely never raced it (though she may have been a clutch rider). :ohno:

Mine went to the dealership 37 times over the years - once every thousand miles! - because the original owner loved her car like a child, not because it needed it. That didn't keep the WP or pilot bearing from giving up the ghost. Bottom line is these parts are over two decades old - low mileage and impeccably maintained is no guarantee.

Where were we?

Ah yes, bone-stock BRG with under 30k miles, but with salvage/rebuilt title (and luggage rack). What say the masses?

Bob_MX5

20th March 2014, 10:00

I'm not masses, but he's out of his mind if he thinks he's getting $7900 for a salvage title. But you never know...crazier things have happened.

mrmustang

20th March 2014, 13:22

Bummer that MrsMustang won't be getting that AT BRG because MrM is just too slow at finding these things.

Be careful, I know where you live :eek:

KeeperNC

20th March 2014, 13:48

Be careful, I know where you live :eek:

Hope so - I'm still waiting on that cloth top! :rofl:

mrmustang

20th March 2014, 14:09

Hope so - I'm still waiting on that cloth top! :rofl:

Weather is going to be great for a nice ride to PA ;) I'll even help install it when you get here. Should not take us longer than a hour. :thumbs:

Saturday would be the better of the two days, Sunday we have an open house going on.:cool:

Bill S.

KeeperNC

20th March 2014, 15:21

Sunday we have an open house going on.:cool:

Good luck!!! :thumbs:

Getting back to the rebuilt-title BRG, I'll be really curious to see if that gets interest from anyone here.

From what I've read on M.net, the value of a salvage (or previously salvage) titled vehicle is 1/3 to 1/2 the market value for a similar non-salvage car.

For discussion's sake, let's say the value of a 29k clean-title BRG is $10,000. Theoretically then, this BRG would be worth $5,000 to $6,700 - a range that's probably not out of reach with his $7,500 asking price and lack of interest so far.

But the question then becomes - would the type of buyer who's willing to pay a significant premium for a) low mileage, and b) SE BRG - would that buyer ever even contemplate a salvage vehicle?

Probably not. My guess is this car would be most valuable to someone who absolutely loves the BRG color, wants one to race (thus not caring about the title), and recognizes he couldn't find any very-low-mile NA, give it a quality paint job, and finish at a better price.

That's one thought anyway - any others?

scottns

20th March 2014, 15:30

http://newlondon.craigslist.org/clt/4383627152.html

autox25

20th March 2014, 22:49

This ricer special is back up now that spring is around the corner if you don't mind the mods. Does come with a hardtop. Only $6500. It's got the normal stupid kiddie pictures at night in a gas station or bad exposure so color lookss black. What are they thinking? Did they all fail HS photography class?

I want to sell my 1991 mazda miata brg edition #3419 it has a hard top and soft top but the window is cracked but you can replace it. Runs and drives great fun little car handles great. It has 87,000 on it, it has a little rust on the rockers and a couple of dent's and scratches I have touch up paint for it. the interior is nice and the overall look is good. the only problem is the fender is banged up up i have a brand new one painted professionally the same color as the car. also if you want more pics just ask

- full exahaust obx header,test pipe, magnaflow cat back
-corbeau seats with brackets
- ddm works intake
-strut bar for front
-nardi wheel and hub also ebarke and shift knob
-megan ez street coilovers
-front and rear lip
-rota classic grid wheels
- short throw shifter
- shorty antenna

not on the car
-new fender painted to match
- kg works rear wing
-side skirts
-hard top wing
-Boss frog frame rail guards

antdf

21st March 2014, 00:44

http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/4384800780.html

$3500, 169K miles, missing tan seats and carpet

Joe_in_Houston

21st March 2014, 06:52

Missing Nardi wood shift knob & wood e-brake handle too. Body looks nice in the pic as does tan dash & door cards.

Joe
in Houston
2000 Evo Orange "Cooper"

Joe_in_Houston

21st March 2014, 17:44

Not sure if this 91 BRG has made the list already but it's being parted. ViN not listed:

http://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/ptd/4345083519.html

KeeperNC

21st March 2014, 19:11

Not sure if this 91 BRG has made the list already but it's being parted. ViN not listed:

http://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/ptd/4345083519.html

Man, the more I see cars like this and the one MrM found a page ago (post #80), and then factoring in all the destroyed drift slu*ts (several in this running thread alone), it makes me wonder how many clean, stock (or at least returnable to stock), under 150k BRGs remain.

W.A.G., maybe 2,000? 1,500? :dunno:

A run of 4,000 (or 3,997) isn't remotely rare on the scale of a Lava Orange MSM or a Laser Blue, but these cars are certainly getting more rare by the day!

Anyone who's considering one of the BRGs with a luggage rack might want to put a quick call into that Dallas vehicle - if the trunk lid doesn't have a rack and the lid is undamaged, that would definitely be worth snagging.

autox25

21st March 2014, 22:37

Well if someone here buys one of these with a luggage rack let me know as I would like one with a rack if the paint is nice.

twisties

22nd March 2014, 10:34

Abingdon VA. 96k, $4500, HT. Only one pic, can't even tell if it's a 5spd or auto.

1991 Mazda Miata British Racing Green 4500

http://swva.craigslist.org/cto/4385519807.html

"Up for sale is my 91 Miata. Its the second year the car was produced and its the special edition British Racing Green color. It has a dash plaque certifiying this. Soft top needs a window, hard top is good with a couple chips to the paint showing primer. Tonnau "boot" is tan leather and is good. 96000 miles. Price negotiable it needs to go. Exterior condition is good, with aforementioned hard top damage, and a small dent above drivers side door. Small scratches in a few places from the typical miata paint. Overall solid, reliable car. Call or text anytime very motivated seller. "

Jake2001

22nd March 2014, 10:51

Abingdon VA. 96k, $4500, HT. Only one pic, can't even tell if it's a 5spd or auto.

1991 Mazda Miata British Racing Green 4500

http://swva.craigslist.org/cto/4385519807.html

5-speed, according to the grey tag box under the map.

scottns

22nd March 2014, 11:02

Here is one in Vermont

http://burlington.craigslist.org/cto/4376396548.html

mx52go

22nd March 2014, 11:06

The one pic looks decent, for a DD.

The "Mazda" sticker on the front bumper is in the wrong place... odd. Probably had repaint at some point. Custom plate, at least owner knows what he / she has.

Wheels on it don't look bad, although not to everyone's taste.

Windshield most likely replaced judging by the dark tint across the top.

KeeperNC

22nd March 2014, 16:17

Abingdon VA. 96k, $4500, HT. Only one pic, can't even tell if it's a 5spd or auto.

1991 Mazda Miata British Racing Green 4500

http://swva.craigslist.org/cto/4385519807.html

Yes, 5-speed. I texted with the owner and told him I'd post the info here. Price seemed a steal given the HT until I saw the dent (see attached pic) above the driver's side rear wheel - someone more knowledgable than me would have to assess whether that's fixable.

He says no rust, but rockers were repainted BRG by the prior owner, along with having the passenger door interior "recovered" - he didn't know why. Said the TB/WP were done at 70k by the prior owner, and he did the clutch at 90k. Softtop window is busted, so factor in a new top. The usual minor bolster wear and he said overall the paint isn't in great shape.

He reiterated that "price is definitely not firm."

mrmustang

23rd March 2014, 06:00

Think I posted this one before

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/4387941965.html

But maybe not

greenmonster1918

23rd March 2014, 06:54

Here is one in Vermont

http://burlington.craigslist.org/cto/4376396548.html

When an owner doesn't care how bad his car looks when he is trying to sell it. I can imagine how well he took care of it!!!

autox25

24th March 2014, 09:39

Bill its not a BRG. The add states it was repainted BRG but originally white. i don't think it belongs here. I will say the $850 paint job does look good though in the pics.

mrmustang

24th March 2014, 16:06

http://sanantonio.craigslist.org/cto/4389681161.html

autox25

24th March 2014, 16:17

Cured the sticky dash by swapping in a heavy 94-97 dash?

mrmustang

24th March 2014, 19:35

http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/4351827176.html

jprocknow

28th March 2014, 16:37

http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail.jsp?tracktype=usedcc&csDlId=&csDgId=&listingId=602310604&listingRecNum=7&criteria=feedSegId%3D28705%26rpp%3D50%26isDealerGr ouping%3Dfalse%26sf2Nm%3Dprice%26requestorTracking Info%3DRTB_SEARCH%26sf1Nm%3DlistingDateSeconds%26s f2Dir%3DDESC%26stkTypId%3D28881%26PMmt%3D1-1-0%26rn%3D0%26zc%3D63119%26rd%3D100000%26crSrtFlds% 3DstkTypId-feedSegId-mkId-mdId-pseudoPrice%26mdId%3D21460%26stkTyp%3DU%26mkId%3D2 0073%26prMn%3D0%26sf1Dir%3DDESC%26prMx%3D6000&aff=criteo&listType=3

mrmustang

28th March 2014, 16:50

I believe that is posted from a craigslist ad early on in this thread (from NY).

Bill S.

antdf

28th March 2014, 22:52

22,542 miles
Complete w/two tops

$11,990

Rawlins, WY 82301

KeeperNC

28th March 2014, 23:30

22,542 miles
Complete w/two tops

$11,990

Rawlins, WY 82301

Ooofa - nice find! :eek:

A car like that sure deserves better photography, not to mention unzipping the soft-top window before putting on the HT. :ohno:

Two oddities in the Carfax:

1) Its first-reported service (at 19k miles) was 240 miles away in south Denver - owner would've had to drive past the Mazda dealer in Chyenne to get there. Maybe had mechanical issues while on a trip?

2) They're advertising it as a one-owner car, yet a new owner was reported in June of last year ... in Charleston, SC, a mere 1,900 miles away! And now it's back in Wyoming where it started.

Probably legit reasons for both, but ... odd. :dunno:

JP 92HZ

29th March 2014, 01:06

Ooofa - nice find! :eek:

A car like that sure deserves better photography, not to mention unzipping the soft-top window before putting on the HT. :ohno:

Two oddities in the Carfax:

2) They're advertising it as a one-owner car, yet a new owner was reported in June of last year ... in Charleston, SC, a mere 1,900 miles away! And now it's back in Wyoming where it started.

Probably legit reasons for both, but ... odd. :dunno:

Since it says "one-family owned" it could be more than one actual owner, and one of the "relatives" may have owned/registered it for a year in SC....

Agree needs much better photos, and pinstripe not so great. But nice find.

chacend

29th March 2014, 03:41

22,542 miles
Complete w/two tops

$11,990

Rawlins, WY 82301

That car has been on autotrader forever. Of course it's in the middle of nowhere and is not easily accessible from an airport for a fly and drive.

greenmonster1918

29th March 2014, 06:57

http://burlington.craigslist.org/cto/4376396548.html

SOLD FOR 3300.00

Bob_MX5

29th March 2014, 09:33

22,542 miles
Complete w/two tops

$11,990

Rawlins, WY 82301

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?zip=90815&endYear=1995&modelCode1=MIATA&showcaseOwnerId=100008806&startYear=1991&makeCode1=MAZDA&transmissionCode=MAN&numRecords=100&transmissionCodes=MAN&searchRadius=0&showcaseListingId=368098305&mmt=%5BMAZDA%5BMIATA%5B%5D%5D%5B%5D%5D&listingId=347625495&Log=0
I traded a lot of emails with owner last sept before i bought my 95M and was ready to fly up and buy it. We could not agree on value...not even close.

One family...uncle bought it new, died a couple of years into ownership. Went to his parents then his neice when she was old enough. She drove it summers when home from college and good weather days. Not driven in the snow.
All original. Even tires. Oil changes "regularly", but that is it. No other maintenance done in past 23years unless the uncle had some done before he died. Zero maintenance records and has had no dealer service. Local mechanic say it "looks good to me".
Paint is good from 5 feet but it does have some deep scratches plus other paint damage. Paint damage/condition is consistent with 23yrs, not 22k miles. Licence plate bracket has damaged nose. Lots of door dings consistent with college dorm parking lot life. Other scratches consistent spending months in storage with lots of other stuff getting knocked into it.
It is stored indoors at Dad's in WY.
Owner is in SC.
Owner has unrealistic view of its value, IMO and was not interested in real negotiation as she believes it is in near new condition and needs nothing despite 22yrs of being neglected...but not abused.
I'd estimate it would need $1.5 - $2.5k in maintenance and serious money into fixing the paint problems. This assessment is based on the additional pictures Dad provided plus their answers to my zillion questions.

Cheers

KeeperNC

29th March 2014, 09:55

condition is consistent with 23yrs, not 22k miles.

Great context for any other potential buyers, Bob - thanks! :thumbs:

From that description, my 37k mile BRG (for which I paid considerably less) was in much better condition, and much better cared for ... and despite that I've had to sink money into a new clutch (pilot bearing) and clutch slave, water pump, valve gasket, and tires (replacing 2nd-ever set in my case).

So there's a lot of money to put into the Wyoming car to get it into the condition it deserves, and then count on 23 years of deferred maintenance/old age issues on top of that.

chacend

29th March 2014, 11:03

Considering all that, it may be sitting in Wyoming for a long time to come unless the price gets significantly reduced.

Bob_MX5

29th March 2014, 12:01

Great context for any other potential buyers, Bob - thanks! :thumbs:

So there's a lot of money to put into the Wyoming car to get it into the condition it deserves, and then count on 23 years of deferred maintenance/old age issues on top of that.

My estimate is that it could be a $8-9.5K car, but it needs $4-6K minimum in maintenance and paint/body work to bring it to that level. My body shop guys examined the pictures they sent me and said that because the paint has real damage/issues everywhere, it would need a full re-spray to bring it to the $8-9k value level...buff and blending a few panels will not be enough. When I explained this to the owner she said that as far as she was concerned the paint issues were "normal" and not an issue with respect to the value. Same attitude with maintenance...not broken so don't fix it...but is has had regular oil changes (but no records) so it's all good. :bang: Basically, it's one family owned with the next owner expected to pay for the past 23yrs of neglect.

IMO, the maintenance it needs could be done over a period of time, but again, 23yrs of deferred maintenance will not be cheap...even DIY. Tires, brakes, suspension, hoses, belts, fluids (except oil) are all original. Pic of the brake fluid reservoir actually didn't look too bad. Wasn't black. They were not even interested in putting new tires on it at their asking price back in September. We discussed the condition and value for several days. I offered $6K (and even that was high in my mind but I gave it extra credit for the mileage and one-family ownership) and as I recall she countered with a price well above $11K by knocking off enough to pay for the tires that I was going to have installed in Cheyenne. I did not offer a second counter but wished her well and ended negotiations. I felt there was no reason to spend any more of my time (or hers) with additional negotiations. Had the paint not needed so much work and had the asking price been $4K lower, perhaps we could have come to an agreement and it'd be in my garage. But, paint and body work is so expensive and IMO a one-owner, very low mileage BRG should "look" the part. $12K plus a new paint job plus 23yrs of deferred maintenance is not within my budget for a $9K car.

It's been out there for a while and will be for some time unless they lower the price considerably or they find a buyer that has plenty of money to spend for a BRG that is not, by any means, an "Excellent condition...Regular maintenance" BRG Miata.

edit: I have just relooked the pictures. Passenger door has significant door dings. Windshield pillar has deep, long, scratches. Hood has paint damage. Nose has deep scratches/gauges from the license plate bracket. Front license plate is bent significantly indicating possible other damage behind the plate that is not visible in the pictures. Engine bay looks very clean. Brake fluid looks old but not dark brown or black. Possibly only a few years old rather than 23 yrs old.

chacend

29th March 2014, 14:19

Yeah, and the bigger problem is that if you have a complete repsray done it will be very hard to find some place to single stage. So you would pay a premium for the car and have a paint job done that doesn't match the original method, effectively killing the collector value of a low mileage BRG. In that case it may as well be a driver and you can find plenty of cheaper better maintenance examples for that, like Ed's.

twisties

29th March 2014, 18:35

A BRG no doubt but details are scarce. Looks like a few cosmetic mods along the way.

Mazada Miata 1991 3200

http://huntsville.craigslist.org/cto/4397874117.html

autox25

29th March 2014, 21:09

Love the thumb picture. It's been destroyed in a matter of months by the grandson. So he can't drive a manual but granny did? Maybe she should give Jr some lessons.

huesmann

30th March 2014, 01:10

With that wing it looks more like a Celica... :rolleyes:

mrmustang

30th March 2014, 06:59

Love the thumb picture. It's been destroyed in a matter of months by the grandson. So he can't drive a manual but granny did? Maybe she should give Jr some lessons.

Not to mention the full repaint and the placement of the 93 and up bumper emblem on the hood :rolleyes:

mrmustang

31st March 2014, 20:19

Poor little BRG

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/4399853330.html

Joe_in_Houston

31st March 2014, 22:19

Did you see this BRG Planet-Miata got in back in 8/13?

Joe_in_Houston

31st March 2014, 22:20

http://www.planet-miata.com/

mrmustang

1st April 2014, 21:16

http://omaha.craigslist.org/cto/4402991841.html

huesmann

2nd April 2014, 09:37

http://omaha.craigslist.org/cto/4402991841.html
Is BRG supposed to have black interior, or tan?

Joe_in_Houston

2nd April 2014, 11:41

Huesman, you are spot on- should be a tan interior other than console.

Ed's 91-BRG

2nd April 2014, 17:24

My wife told me to keep it and I'll not argue with my partner of over 41 years (well, at least not about that). Cheers, Ed

Ps: best cash offer (rejected) was $8,500.

KeeperNC

2nd April 2014, 18:24

Great call, Ed! See you in Hendersonville, if not sooner. :thumbs:

Ed's 91-BRG

2nd April 2014, 18:54

Great call, Ed! See you in Hendersonville, if not sooner. :thumbs:

Thanks - looking forward to it. Ed

mrmustang

7th April 2014, 07:25

http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/cto/4410229130.html

Mileage is a little high, but looks well cared for

Bob_MX5

7th April 2014, 10:09

http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/cto/4410229130.html

Mileage is a little high, but looks well cared for

How may tan vinyls had to die for that make over: bra, top, tombstone, center console, door panel tops...oh my....

:-)

antdf

8th April 2014, 23:31

Possible BRG w/Hard Top
listed @ $2100

https://sandiego.craigslist.org/esd/cto/4411656062.html

KeeperNC

9th April 2014, 06:36

Nice find, antdf! With that interior, definitely a BRG, despite the seller mislabeling it a 1990. I don't have a SE# or VIN to add, but thought I'd capture the body of the ad anyway since this one should be gone by later today, if it's not already sold. Ugly wheels, a nose job (at least) and missing antenna are the obvious issues, but still, the HT alone is worth half his asking price. With that mileage and a clean title, it's a steal even if the Carfax shows an accident history.

1990 Mazda Miata - $2100 (El Cajon)

1990 Mazda Miata odometer: 119800 manual transmission title : clean

Selling my 1990 Mazda Miata. Interior and exterior needs some minor TLC, that comes with its age. Runs excellent, new battery, Tires at 80%, everything works, air works, but could use a re-charge, removable hard-top with after marked wind break screen included, AM FM CD with MP3 adapter.
Call or e-mail with any questions.
Manuel 619.778.4416

KeeperNC

9th April 2014, 13:06

And, as predicted, the San Diego BRG is gone (or at least the ad is down). If anyone here got it, please fill us in after you have it in your possession.

jprocknow

9th April 2014, 14:53

Worked for me just now.

KeeperNC

9th April 2014, 15:28

Worked for me just now.

I bet you're seeing a cached version that your browser saved from opening earlier. Clear your browser's cache, or try opening it with another program like Chrome or Firefox if you normally use IE, or open with a different device like your phone - anything you hadn't previously viewed it with.

In my case, it still shows up on the phone (where I looked at it this morning), but viewing on my work computer (oops, yes, I should be working :eek:) displays a "This posting has been deleted by its author" message.

jprocknow

9th April 2014, 15:57

Yup, still working!

KeeperNC

9th April 2014, 16:03

^^^ Okay then, I'll just put it down to "you get what you pay for" with CL.

But for anyone who's actually interested, I'd certainly call the seller before booking a cross-country flight. ;)

mrmustang

9th April 2014, 17:59

Yup, still working!

Nope, deleted by the seller....What you two others are seeing is cached on your phones/browsers/local computers....Either that, or you are on AOL , which has a lag in their "live" content, depending which node/server farm you are logged in to.

Bill S.

mrmustang

10th April 2014, 08:48

Is this a BRG, or a 92 mislabeled as a 1991

http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/csw/cto/4415638519.html

KeeperNC

10th April 2014, 08:55

Is this a BRG, or a 92 mislabeled as a 1991

http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/csw/cto/4415638519.html

Power antenna proves it's the latter - a mislabled 92 B&T missing its signature BBS, unfortunately.

MLambert19

10th April 2014, 19:18

http://www.autozin.com/Mazda,67,MX-5-Miata,1991-Mazda-Miata-British-Racing-Green-Special-Edition,29749.html

Not sure about the reputability of autozin... but appears to be a 67K BRG.

mrmustang

11th April 2014, 08:23

Poor little BRG

http://prescott.craigslist.org/cto/4346775613.html

huesmann

11th April 2014, 09:55

http://www.autozin.com/Mazda,67,MX-5-Miata,1991-Mazda-Miata-British-Racing-Green-Special-Edition,29749.html

Not sure about the reputability of autozin... but appears to be a 67K BRG.
What color is the BRG original top?

Bob_MX5

11th April 2014, 10:35

http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/cto/4413703840.html

antdf

11th April 2014, 14:29

I got in touch with the seller in Vegas and got the vin,"JM1NA3518M1230456"

He also sent me some more photos that I can post later today.

There is also an older listing that offers more details

http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/cto/4398693747.html

mrmustang

11th April 2014, 14:39

http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/cto/4413703840.html

Needs a new passenger side fender, which means a blend in to the hood, and the passenger door at the very least. Drivers seat needs to be recovered, and he has no idea when they timing chain and water pump have been changed although he says "recent", he has no records of the service. Lots of other receipts, but not the major one. :rolleyes:

Bill S.

jprocknow

11th April 2014, 15:12

I got in touch with the seller in Vegas and got the vin,"JM1NA3518M1230456"

He also sent me some more photos that I can post later today.

There is also an older listing that offers more details

http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/cto/4398693747.html

I guess he was counting other BRGs when he claims there are 10,000 of them? And 10,000 is rare to him.

autox25

11th April 2014, 16:33

The las vegas car looks clean. Great looking engine compartment. Seems to have been cared for.

antdf

12th April 2014, 03:52

Here are some additional interior shots.
still waiting on a better photo of the fender damage

http://imgur.com/a/qflzw

mrmustang

12th April 2014, 13:57

http://houston.craigslist.org/cto/4418815650.html

Joe_in_Houston

12th April 2014, 14:46

I was so embarrassed that BRG was in Houston I didn't report it....

Joe_in_Houston

14th April 2014, 12:36

Here's a BRG that was listed on the San Antonio CL back in last week of March. I made contact with the son of the Seller who was to contact me back but never did. I made several other attempts at contacting with no results so I figured it was sold.
I see today that it is posted again. I did earlier get the VIN as JM1NA3519M1231078 for whoever is keeping track of these things.
I have run a CARFAX which shows multiple locations & last sale on March 2, 2014 so why offer it for sale less than a month later?

FWIW:

http://sanantonio.craigslist.org/bar/4393364799.html

mrmustang

14th April 2014, 12:41

No pictures on this one

http://harrisburg.craigslist.org/cto/4422008185.html

Then again, at the sellers price, he is dreaming, especially needing a top

Joe_in_Houston

16th April 2014, 16:19

91 BRG $3200 unk mileage, Houston area, wing, mag wheels, custom exhaust etc. driver's seat rough!

Not mine etc.:

http://houston.craigslist.org/sys/4426000048.html

Joe
in Houston
2000 Evo Orange "Cooper"

Joe_in_Houston

16th April 2014, 16:36

VIN of above BRG is JM1NA3514M0231933

Mileage is 105k. Comes with original wheels.

Joe
in Houston
2000 Evo Orange "Cooper"

Joe_in_Houston

16th April 2014, 17:35

BRG 90k mt $4495 Hollywood FL

Slight bolster wear, luggage rack, looks like front bumper dimpled(?) but has Mazda sticker; wood trim; not mine:

VIN jm1na3515m1220952

http://www.cyberautosalesmiami.net/mobile/mdetails.aspx?VID=224450970

chacend

16th April 2014, 17:53

BRG 90k mt $4495 Hollywood FL

Slight bolster wear, luggage rack, looks like front bumper dimpled(?) but has Mazda sticker; wood trim; not mine:

VIN jm1na3515m1220952

http://www.cyberautosalesmiami.net/mobile/mdetails.aspx?VID=224450970

Not bad looking but what's up with the hood? Looks bent.

Joe_in_Houston

16th April 2014, 18:27

Forgot to mention the gauge faces looked to be changed out & the dash has some peeling issues.

mrmustang

16th April 2014, 20:34

http://southbend.craigslist.org/cto/4424656174.html

Posted without further comment :D

Joe_in_Houston

16th April 2014, 21:27

It looks fast just sitting there!

MLambert19

18th April 2014, 18:13

http://cnj.craigslist.org/cto/4429206020.html

Nice looking car w/ 100K, shame it's an automatic. Has the KGWorks Gauge cluster...

scottns

18th April 2014, 21:01

High miles car in Canada

http://montreal.fr.craigslist.ca/cto/4396795559.html

nwmga

19th April 2014, 08:03

I thought I'd throw this in here -- I'm looking for a BRG (code HU) trunk lid, preferably with the OEM luggage rack, but plain is OK. Thanks.

mrmustang

19th April 2014, 08:21

http://cnj.craigslist.org/cto/4429206020.html

Nice looking car w/ 100K, shame it's an automatic. Has the KGWorks Gauge cluster...

Sold on Mista.net a year ago by a certain seller in Denville, NJ who insisted his automatic would fetch 5K+ :D

Joe_in_Houston

21st April 2014, 17:19

http://houston.craigslist.org/cto/4433036143.html

Mileage 199k; $1895; radio & a/c not working; seats have issues

VIN JM1NA3512M1227597

scottns

22nd April 2014, 11:06

In what world is 118k low miles?? Did BRG's come with black top/interior??

http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/4433334099.html

I think this car is about a mile from my house....

scottns

22nd April 2014, 11:10

Here is an automatic in CT

http://newlondon.craigslist.org/cto/4429290611.html

mrmustang

22nd April 2014, 11:12

Here is an automatic in CT

http://newlondon.craigslist.org/cto/4429290611.html

Actually in Basking Ridge, NJ, sold by a miata.net member out of Denville, NJ last year

mrmustang

22nd April 2014, 11:13

In what world is 118k low miles?? Did BRG's come with black top/interior??

http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/4433334099.html

I think this car is about a mile from my house....

US spec cars did not, Canadian cars could have

Looking at the hood shot, I can see a fender VIN tag and what appears to be BRG paint surrounding it. Then again, it could be an interior swap to black per an earlier owner who liked the look. Not the first time I have run across something like this.

Bill S.

flash9

22nd April 2014, 11:22

http://cnj.craigslist.org/cto/4429206020.html

Nice looking car w/ 100K, shame it's an automatic. Has the KGWorks Gauge cluster...

Sold on Mista.net a year ago by a certain seller in Denville, NJ who insisted his automatic would fetch 5K+ :D

I seem to remember some of those exact same photos from that earlier sale, so did the new owner just reuse photos from a year or so? :dunno:

KeeperNC

22nd April 2014, 11:23

In what world is 118k low miles??

In any world where the car is your primary driver, not a spare car reserved just for warm, sunny days. ;)

Seriously, on any ride other than a Miata, that would be very low mileage for a 23-year-old vehicle (average of just over 5k miles per year, vs. the national average of just over 12k for all cars). It's only here on M.net, where we have frequent threads about sub-50k cars, and occasionally sub-10k, that it seems high.

I certainly wouldn't let the mileage stop me from buying the car, if the TB/WP have been done, and depending on his PW issue. These are Miatas after all, it's good for another 80-100k, and more if treated well.

But the $5k price, black interior (looks like steering wheel is replaced too), lack of TB/WP mention plus PW issue, and lack of good photography, will probably mean this one sits for a while. That's an average price for 80k to 100k bone-stock BRG, not a 120k modified or Canadian one.

scottns

22nd April 2014, 11:28

In any world where the car is your primary driver, not a spare car reserved just for warm, sunny days. ;)

I might drive by this thing on my way home just out of curiosity to see if it's a repaint. I saw it yesterday cruising around thinking how odd the black was on a BRG.

nwmga

22nd April 2014, 13:00

Should have DRL if it's Canadian origin, like my '96 BRG. Also, most are without A/C.

91BRG-1STOWNR

22nd April 2014, 14:12

All Canadian market 1991 BRG's came with a black top and tan leather interior. Beginning in 1994 and continuing through 1997, BRG became a standard available color on Canadian market Miatas. Purchasers could opt for the standard black interior or the optional tan leather package.

Joe_in_Houston

22nd April 2014, 14:40

I personally like the BRG/blk combo.
Leather seats are not comfortable in our heat either; much prefer cloth seats.

twisties

22nd April 2014, 20:15

67k, $8k, HT, 5spd, says ABS (that's got to be kind of rare?)

Cumberland,RI. Dealer

JM1NA3512M1227471

http://www.ultraautosales.com/mobile/mdetails.aspx?VID=226711590#

chacend

23rd April 2014, 02:50

67k, $8k, HT, 5spd, says ABS (that's got to be kind of rare?)

Cumberland,RI. Dealer

JM1NA3512M1227471

http://www.ultraautosales.com/mobile/mdetails.aspx?VID=226711590#

No ABS, check the pics.

Ed's 91-BRG

23rd April 2014, 05:01

67k, $8k, HT, 5spd, says ABS (that's got to be kind of rare?)

Cumberland,RI. Dealer

JM1NA3512M1227471

http://www.ultraautosales.com/mobile/mdetails.aspx?VID=226711590#

Green rockers, no nose decal. One grainy photo showed what looked to be painted over rust.:dunno:

chacend

23rd April 2014, 06:43

Green rockers, no nose decal. One grainy photo showed what looked to be painted over rust.:dunno:

I don't notice the rust but the picture sucks. Definitely had a paint job though.

flash9

23rd April 2014, 15:58

Here is another (rather sad example) in Texas.

Excellent ride & drive. Has NEW top, and interior looks like new. Transmission & clutch good, AC cold, and good tires. WILL FINANCE

118,551 Miles
$4,995
Hattons German Imports (http://www.hattonsgermanimports.com/1991_Mazda_MX-5%20Miata_201234115.veh)

flash9

23rd April 2014, 16:42

This one includes the hard top. Price seems a little high, and the presentation is not the best, but where else can you find a "Mint Green" Miata. :rofl:

WOW - The only word that describes this one! Where else are you going to find a ONE OWNER, completely original 1991 Mazda Miata MX-5 Hard Top Convertible with ONLY 66K MILES in near perfect condition! Car has only been driven an average of less than 3K miles per year - never seen bad weather or salt...your friends will be amazed at the condition of this beauty!

This thing has been extremely well cared for, and is just in time for some summer fun - and also has the hard top. Always garaged & meticulously maintained - an awesome toy for a lot of enjoyment...and for short money!

This is a Mint 1991 Mazda Miata MX-5 with a 5 speed manual transmission & a 4 Cylinder engine! First one to see & drive will buy!

Features a Mint Green Exterior with a Perfect Convertible Top, removable hard top, as well as a Tan Leather Interior. Comes with; Leather Interior, Tilt Wheel, Ice Cold A/C, Power Windows, Power Locks, Power Steering, Cruise Control, AM/FM Stereo, Premium Alloy Wheels and more...

We are offering this one of a kind Miata Convertible at a price of $7,995 - NADA retail has this one valued at $8,767 in this condition, without adding for the super low miles & One Owner maintenance. (http://www.ultraautosales.com/1991_Mazda_MX-5%20Miata_Cumberland_RI_226711590.veh)

If NADA really has that car valued at $8,767, then I need to up my agreed value insurance. :D

chacend

23rd April 2014, 17:33

If NADA really has that car valued at $8,767, then I need to up my agreed value insurance. :D

NADA Classic does value a top level 91 at $8767 for high retail but I doubt this one makes that threshold.
Its probably closer to the average retail value of $5696 or less since its had a repaint (green rockers), depends on why. The interior is quite nice though.

MLambert19

23rd April 2014, 18:25

http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/4436095675.html

Maybe this one meets that threshold? 43K, hardtop, looks spotless. Thought maybe it was Ed's at first except it's the wrong number and place...

dhoffman

23rd April 2014, 18:44

http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/4436095675.html

Maybe this one meets that threshold? 43K, hardtop, looks spotless. Thought maybe it was Ed's at first except it's the wrong number and place...

That is nice looking, especially the interior, it looks new! Fully priced though.

Ed's 91-BRG

24th April 2014, 06:24

http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/4436095675.html

Maybe this one meets that threshold? 43K, hardtop, looks spotless. Thought maybe it was Ed's at first except it's the wrong number and place...

Nope - not mine. We've retired the car as an official "garage queen" to be used for pleasure driving only according to my new Hagerty collectable car policy. :D

mrmustang

25th April 2014, 07:22

Could this be a BRG

http://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/cto/4437735541.html

If so and rust free, might just be a good deal

mrmustang

25th April 2014, 07:39

Hardtop car in California

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/cto/4438959406.html

Missing the seats, but wonder what he would actually take for it?

mrmustang

25th April 2014, 09:27

Close to home, but not worth the time to go see

http://harrisburg.craigslist.org/cto/4422008185.html

I think he is really fishing with his $4,500 asking price. Even if it included a hardtop (which it does not), it would be $1,000-$1,500 overpriced.

Bill S.

jprocknow

25th April 2014, 10:44

Hardtop car in California

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/cto/4438959406.html

Missing the seats, but wonder what [s]he would actually take for it?

Says seats have a cover, so originals are likely shot. Also female-owned.

mrmustang

25th April 2014, 10:51

Also female-owned.

I know some female miata owners that are not kind on their vehicles.

Bill S.

Rod Knock

25th April 2014, 12:41

I know some female miata owners that are not kind on their vehicles.

Bill S.

Drives like a race car too. :rofl:

Looks like a pretty good deal, if clean.

scottns

26th April 2014, 12:24

In what world is 118k low miles?? Did BRG's come with black top/interior??

http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/4433334099.html

I think this car is about a mile from my house....

Car is definitely a repaint. Use to be white.

mrmustang

26th April 2014, 13:17

Car is definitely a repaint. Use to be white.

Did you go and see it?

scottns

26th April 2014, 15:20

Did you go and see it?

I drove by it. You can clearly see white paint under the chipping green.

Joe_in_Houston

28th April 2014, 16:50

FWIW:

http://sanantonio.craigslist.org/bar/4393364799.html

I was persistent in trying to gain an audience to view this BRG and was surprised when I got a text saying to come down & see it. I ended up trading a motorcycle (!) & a little cash to purchase it. It is not perfect, but the pluses are:

80k miles
4 new Michellin tires
New Robbins soft top
All original panels
Nice interior other than driver's derriere seat
a/c works great
recent inspection
engine runs & idles good.

It has its share of dings & very minor dents but it shows well.
Passenger side mirror is gone (!) & finish panel is broken in half. ;(
Seller claims he broke it trying to put on the license plate.
Radiator cooling fan motor or relay is out as best as I can tell.
Original shocks so we know what all this means....

Interesting sales experience. During the test drive, I put in some gas to make sure we didn't run out of gas. I ended up buying a radiator cap & a/c-p/s belt myself to have the Seller install it to show me it worked. Almost walked away several times but glad I stayed & worked the details out.

All in all, I have y'all to thank (or blame lol) for giving me the BRG bug to look for one of these really neat NA's.

We now have an NA, NB & NC. This won't last though. I don't have a 3 car garage....argh....

# 2878/4000

VIN is JM1NA3519M1231078 & resides in Houston, TX now.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v238/miatajoe/image_zpsc0f25d37.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/miatajoe/media/image_zpsc0f25d37.jpg.html)

Bob_MX5

28th April 2014, 17:27

Well played, my south texas friend...well played.

greenmonster1918

28th April 2014, 17:52

80k miles
4 new Michellin tires
New Robbins soft top
All original panels
Nice interior other than driver's derriere seat
a/c works great
recent inspection
engine runs & idles good.

All in all, I have y'all to thank (or blame lol) for giving me the BRG bug to look for one of these really neat NA's.

We now have an NA, NB & NC. This won't last though. I don't have a 3 car garage....argh....

# 2878/4000

VIN is JM1NA3519M1231078 & resides in Houston, TX now.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v238/miatajoe/image_zpsc0f25d37.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/miatajoe/media/image_zpsc0f25d37.jpg.html)

I like the tan top instead of the black

Rod Knock

28th April 2014, 17:52

Hey alright. A good buy. Congrats!

KeeperNC

28th April 2014, 20:36

Joe, that's the best outcome so far of this entire long-winded thread - love it! Congrats!!! :thumbs:

Joe_in_Houston

28th April 2014, 21:45

I like the tan top instead of the black

Me too :D

Joe_in_Houston

28th April 2014, 23:07

Joe, that's the best outcome so far of this entire long-winded thread - love it! Congrats!!! :thumbs:

Not long winded at all! Kudos to you for keeping up with all this BRG info & all the participants in reporting their finds.

I'll keep at it as well for the next lucky future BRG owner! :jump:

MLambert19

29th April 2014, 10:40

Haha! Joe, I didn't know you were looking at BRG's, too! Congrats buddy! I'll try to post pics of my find sometime (no online photo-sharing account, yet).

Just spoke with Mazda N.A., mine is #225. VIN# JM1NA3517M1221679.

Purchased it 4/25 out of Williamsville, NY. Hardtop, full interior cover, almost complete. Has a few dings & the passenger door has been painted-poorly. Going to try to breathe some life back into it... with only 53K on the clock, it should clean up well. It ran like a top the whole 600 mile trip back to Maine.

-Matt

KeeperNC

29th April 2014, 10:48

^ ^ ^ Thumbs up, Matt! Love to hear of BRGs being brought back to life by M.netters!!!

Joe_in_Houston

29th April 2014, 17:18

Matt, I wasn't really looking for a BRG, I was just posting them as I found them. I was really looking for a white NA as I told you. But them the Seller called me & well, serendipity. ;)
I thought you had found another NA?

greenmonster1918

30th April 2014, 06:33

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/wvl/ptd/4446261075.html

Joe_in_Houston

30th April 2014, 09:33

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/wvl/ptd/4446261075.html

Poor BRG :cry:

greenmonster1918

30th April 2014, 10:43

187863

KeeperNC

30th April 2014, 11:04

^ ^ ^ Nice new pick-up, John - congrats!

Joe_in_Houston

30th April 2014, 12:20

187863

Very nice indeed!

Joe
in Houston
2000 Evo Orange "Cooper"

jprocknow

30th April 2014, 12:26

One just popped up on my local club for sale, back with more info shortly I hope.

KawaiiMiat

1st May 2014, 00:13

187863
91 BRG 99,300 MILES

http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/4447807618.html

Are you selling this? I'm interested if you can get me a closer pic of the fender dent and it's history.

greenmonster1918

1st May 2014, 11:24

187968

jprocknow

1st May 2014, 12:14

One just popped up on my local club for sale, back with more info shortly I hope.

This is one in St. Louis, haven't seen it on CL or anywhere else yet.

1991 Mazda Mx-5 Dual Top
74K miles

British Racer Green
Tan Interior

Original Carpet, and Floor Mats

5 speed manual
Factory Radio, with Tape/CD

All Power, plus cruise
New Tires

Excellent Condition Garaged

$6000

mrmustang

2nd May 2014, 20:41

Nice BRG parts car

http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4451562107.html

mrmustang

4th May 2014, 05:53

Another BRG parts car

http://desmoines.craigslist.org/cto/4452893873.html

MLambert19

4th May 2014, 10:04

http://burlington.craigslist.org/cto/4445763340.html

Nice shape for the mileage...

huesmann

4th May 2014, 10:24

I don't get all these people who thing 4700 miles a year is high mileage.

Shibby

6th May 2014, 13:47

http://batonrouge.craigslist.org/cto/4452387406.html

1991 Mazda Miata, Special Edition, only 82,000 original miles, 4 cylinder, 5 speed, in unbelievable condition, new tires, cold ac, power windows and locks, top is in perfect condition, no leaks, runs and drives perfect. $3900 FIRM

$3900. No vin included.

jprocknow

6th May 2014, 14:52

http://batonrouge.craigslist.org/cto/4452387406.html

$3900. No vin included.

Green rockers

Bob_MX5

6th May 2014, 14:56

Green rockers

they look darker to me...suggesting black and no repaint. crappy pics and hard to tell.

Joe_in_Houston

6th May 2014, 15:04

they look darker to me...suggesting black and no repaint. crappy pics and hard to tell.

I think I agree with Bob, there does appear to be black in the rocker panel areas but they are not very precise pictures.

Nice that it has the rare to find metal plaque.

Joe
in Houston
2000 Evo Orange "Cooper"

Joe_in_Houston

8th May 2014, 11:48

From our own NA section:

BRG w/ 22k miles for sale: (not mine)

http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=540554

Riz1

8th May 2014, 12:22

In the NA section - selling my BRG

flash9

9th May 2014, 08:34

From our own NA section:

BRG w/ 22k miles for sale: (not mine)

In the NA section - selling my BRG

I thought that was not allowed? Cars that are list as For Sale are suppose to be Paid Members, and listed in the For Sale or Trade (http://forum.miata.net/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=99) area? :realmad:

None-the-lees it is a very nice BRG, but clearly they are not expecting to sell it anytime soon at their current price point. :ohno:

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